Chastisement: If God chastises those He loves, then is all the suffering we have to go through for our growth? [Proverbs 3:11-12, Hebrews 12:3-11, Psalm 119:71] Jesus' Suffering: Were the sufferings of Christ meant for Him to learn obedience in the same way as our chastising is meant for us? [Luke 2:52, Hebrews 5:8, Hebrews 2:10].